To start viewing messages, So, I finally tried both today (huge caveat below). Seconding Lars here, roasted maple doesnt need to be oiled. It doesnt even really need to be finished to remain stable - the roasting process dries out the wood pretty thoroughly, making it extremely stable, though I suspect the Ibanez has a matte finish on the neck anyway. Online boltok, akcik egy helyen az rukeres rsszehasonlt oldalon. Super short answer to what is not overpriced in my view? Well, I think solid body guitars are overpriced in general, but you can often find differences that I could find justifiable up to around USD$700. This is so true and reinforced after actually trying them. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. Other people might care more than I do about something like the handle on the spring lever of this toaster feels too wiggly, and thats up to them. The noiseless pickups sort of make up for this. On the less expensive side check our the Charvel DK24 Pro Mods. We have to accept (for better and worse) that the guitar market is a mass market for consumers and the downsides are clear. Funnily enough, many find it chunky and fat. From the three, I'd definitely pick the Suhr. Its really the lax labour laws and wages in the countries used that allow the lower retail price. I think they also make Telecaster variants, I meannot very original if you ask me. You are using an out of date browser. Both guitars play like a dream. Ive also had good experiences buying low-end Jay Tursers for friends and family. Let's take a look and see if this high-end custom shop guitar. Suhr ClassicIbanez AZNFender MB 60s, 29327 178 876 392 206 106, , "" There'll always be one you could have spent more money to get, but it sounds like the Ibanez is the one you've been thinking of most, so go with that I think. 12/16 on the Ibanez, 10/14 on the Fender. Switches, potentiometers and capacitors are usually fine on all but the cheapest of cheap guitars, but high-quality replacements can be bought cheap from places like mouser.com. The craftsmanship is also incredibly high all round. But in terms of direct competition, basically the only guitar I could find was this Ibanez AZ. The tone, too, but that was probably due to pickups and wood. Get all the details on one of their Prestige flagship models the AZ2402. Do you find a drop in volume/output with the middle pickup? I havent played the Ultra but own the AZ and it is my go-to guitar. Suhr Ibanez AZ Fender Ultra vs StratocasterSuhr ClassicIbanez AZNFender MB 60s To each his own I suppose. Nice write up. For what its worth, I can only speak to how these guitars act in my experience as primarily a fusion and jazz-rock player. In fact, Ibanez even managed to pull in two endorsees that were once with Suhr, Tom Quayle and Martin Miller, both of which now have signature AZ models. Does it make toast? Az's are cool but I'd go Suhr all day long. The new Ibanez AZ series looks like they had Suhr in their sights, and the new Ultra Strats (which I recently acquired, and dearly love!) Even though I sold my AZ when prices rose during COVID, I still thought it was an absolutely top notch guitar. Suhr all day long. The HSS ultra seems to have hotter pickups, which I would like to try. At the first frets, the neck seems very thin. Also my cutoff would be different depending on the category of guitar. it's just that everyone seems to think that suhrs are above everything else, and I wanted to know if that's really the case or just an internet thing. Having played both and owned the Ibanez premium 224 I would say the Ibanez felt a little nicer than the Schecter. Same with Ernie Ball. As for floyd guitars, a lot of it is indeed with the materials (metal alloy) and mass of the bridge itself. I must have mixed it up with some of the Charvels I tried (I tried almost 15 guitars!). It will have a thicker-than-typical neck for an Ibanez, but probably still thinner than average and I wouldn't be surprised if it's a hair thinner than that Fender. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy. I know a lot of you have been wanting me to take a look at a Suhr, so here you go. I am a terrible guitar player so a better guitar will not make me better, but I can feel a difference between a 200 guitar and a 1000 axe, quality of build, pickups, electronics, hardware, etc. Some people love it, some people hate it. You could get a sweet amp or pedals or something fun with that. Anyway, if you can play both that would be your best bet.. but I would personally go with the Ibanez. cool comparison! Ignoring looks and price, which would you rather own? Suhrs are great but Ibanez are equally great in my eyes, just at a better price. c Thickness of the neck at the first fret. What do you think about this? Thank you, I am a bit of a spec guy so it makes senses to compare them, although the ultimate test will be whether I get the mojo or not with them. The craftsmanship on those instruments are amazing, the quality control is superb, and the versatility in the pups is like magic. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I believe after looking into it that its an SSH+. I have gone for the Ibanez. Let's hear the 22 fret against the Suhr Classic and AT100. The AZ neck was a joy to play. Radius: Radius of the fingerboard. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. It will have a thicker-than-typical neck for an Ibanez, but probably still thinner than average and I wouldnt be surprised if its a hair thinner than that Fender. Join me in the fight against muscular atrophy. Being used to a C-type neck, I wasnt too bothered about the Ultra, which felt more modern (modern D they call it), and the chamfered access made it easier to play than my Player with the block in the way. The middle and bridge SS on the SSS model are different to the HSS pickups, so its not even the same sound. the forum rules you agreed to follow when you signed up. It means the endorsement is genuinely about the gear and not a pay check. I can see the pickups working well for fusion sounds. The only widely available cheap strat Ive stumbled across lately that I really disliked was the newish ultra-cheap Kramer Focus from Gibson. You are using an out of date browser. Suhr can never churn out enough guitars for the amount of orders they get, they'll be fine. IBANEZ AZS!. Very, very good bridge on this guitar. If youre ever thinking of selling, theres probably more used demand for the Fender. And often exclusive has an appeal to it as well. I imagine the bridge used by Suhr that's closest to the bridge on the Ibanez AZ2402 is the 2-post solid-saddle 510: the Gotoh 510TS-FE1. My only complaint about it was that the neck was too thin for my taste, but it's a matter of preference - some people prefer thinner necks. I'm not crazy with the whammy though. Like I said, the AZ is basically Ibanezs take on a Suhr Modern. The only exception is the Aura series. Obviously, Ibanez and FMC took note of this popularity and came out with their takes on this style of guitar, and were able to gain a bunch of former Suhr artists with better endorsement deals (since they have larger budgets). Is this serious? I think this was a dealer specd model and they mismatched the pickup output very hard. Of course there is nowhere nearby to try any of these so Im considering ordering 2 and returning my least fav. Comparing Suhr's Modern line vs the new Ibanez AZ models isn't a particularly fair comparison, in that you have to decide whether country of manufacture matters to you. So, minor differences. I honestly don't think my issue is a fret issue as much as a possible neck pocket issue. I've been posting my shootout videos around Ibanez AZ series, but so far only 24 frets. The budget-friendly equivalent - the AZ Essentials series - carries the torch well, delivering one of the best budget Strat-style guitars around. https://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/comments/8gwnnl/gear_discussion_ibanez_az_hss/?utm_source=reddit-android. ok i got it Rich thanks, i had read that the Guthrie Govan Charvel had the same issue with the same non locking/bone nut system. As somebody who owns Ibanezes from many decadesI am not surprised by this at all. AZAZ!. That's probably the most commonly used bridge pickup for Suhr. Hardware and built: The Ibanez has stainless steel frets, which is supposedly a plus (not a connosseur here). . Tried both on a Boss Katana 100w at the shop using clean, crunch, and brown channels. I enjoyed the comparison, OP. Yea on paper the Ibanez looks so good, it has everything I was looking for in a guitar, especially knowing that great guitarists like Martin Miller and Tom Quayle were behind the design decisions. Also, I think you are right about the flat 12 radius. Nope. It still felt great, but I left the shop convinced it had a dual radius. I'd agree, the pickups are certainly different. Are some toasters nicer than others. To me, it played like a dream! Yep, Im a touring (well, you know, until last year) musician and music teacher by profession and can never quite afford the gear I want. The AZ series uses Duncans. The quality of the actual materials used is pretty uniform from factory to factory. Seeing the new Ibanez headless models got me thinking about how in the past couple of years Ibanez and Charvel have managed to grab quite a few "2nd wave shredders" (basically the fusion-inspired shred players that came on the scene in the mid-late 00s and gained prominence in the 10s) who previously either endorsed or frequently played Suhr by coming out with the AZ and DK lines respectively. Welcome to r/guitar, a community devoted to the exchange of guitar related information. Ibanez offers electric guitars, bass guitars, acoustic guitars, effect and pedals, amps, plus guitar accessories like . Add a larger denser block if you need to, and your route can support it. Yea, the strings all flex out to the treble side on dives so you have to roll off straight but it's more important to roll the back side to the treble side or that's where it will bind. Both felt like a shreddier improvement. The pricing isn't so simple either though, That blue Ibanez AZ costs 200 more than a Suhr Modern Satin does, they are expensive to such a degree that even in the case of more expensive Suhrs, if . The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. And I didn't gel with the stock pickups in my Modern, so it has DiMarzios now. Elad ez a remek mini distortion pedl, ami a hres Suhr Riot pedl hangzst idzi. I mean the pickups, the neck and that bridge are all top notch. At $2,000 new, they enter the same market as the Suhr Modern style, but as more of a production guitar at around $1k cheaper. There are three principles behind the Ibanez Prestige line: Precision, Performance, and Playability. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk. And secondly there was no stock of HSS ultras, so I tried a SSS ultra and a HSS american pro (which is different, anyway). I have a Suhr Custom Modern in H-S-H. By continuing to use our site you consent to use our cookies. [DISCUSSION] Ibanez AZ prestige or Suhr modern satin. Ibanez AZ2402 ICM AZ2402 | AZ | ELECTRIC GUITARS | PRODUCTS | Ibanez guitars. 430mmR. Since you just posted an NGD, I assume you just got this guitar and are still in the honeymoon phase. Solidbody Electric Guitar with Alder Body, Maple Neck, Rosewood Fingerboard, 1 Humbucking Pickup, 2 Single-coil Pickups, dyna-MIX9 System, and Gotoh Tremolo - Prussian Blue Metallic. 2023: The Year Epiphone Became Unaffordable, Don't store picks in zip bags for too long. Can we see a pic of your suhr you speak so highly of? Mouser in recent years has tapped into the guitar market by offering musical specific items from distributors. There was a time when the necks and bodies on cheap guitars were frequently problematic, but those days are mostly gone. . However, a little time with my trusted luthier/repairman, and $160 later the guitar will have the silkiest playability I can imagine. Rosewood and, I believe, ebony require periodic oiling, but maple doesnt really need anything - maybe the occasional wipe down with mineral spirits to clean an unfinished board, but thats about it. You shouldnt oil roasted maple, and it doesnt move with the seasons, which is another benefit to us lazy bastards that dont want to mess with the truss rod. I had an RG3120 many years ago, it was a fine guitar. As such, there is a gradient and a sliding scale of value for money and I think after you hit the 600 mark improvements become marginal for the price difference. Ibanez Az is not a competition to the fender but something more towards a Suhr , hence the Gotoh 5xx bridge, SS Frets and roasted maple for neck. That Fender, meanwhile, is just an upgraded, modified Strat. I have a suhr 60s std in classic s. Thickness 0.81 0.93. Shanks! I am not an expert but I would say it was down to the pickups. Some boutiques just want to be boutiques. The Ultra sounds like a strat: dynamic, transparent, sparky? One is the '97 American Standard I bought new more than two decades ago and will go to the grave with me. One thing to remember is that because necks are 'hand-finished' they can vary from guitar to guitar. If you're using a bar like than stick with double lockers. Players of other genres may not be as interested in the Ibanezs ability to make fusion legato playing so smooth. Sweetwater Savings: $ 866 .66 MSRP: $ 3,466 .65. tone forum. Features: - Alder Body - Roasted Maple Fretboard - Jumbo Stainless Frets - Seymour Duncan Hyperion Pickups - Bone Nut - Gotoh T1802 Tremolo Ibanez RG420HPFM ; GRASS ROOTS G-I-48LP-iv ; PRS Singlecut 10top 2002 ; fernandes sustainer ; Fender Japan TEXAS [da] Ibanez S5470 SOL (Not sure if I'll get/want a hardtail or a bar.) Need some context: What pups are in the Suhr and Ibby? Guitars: 2016 Ibanez RG6003FM (JB/'59nJ) 2018 G&L Tribute Legacy (Hot Rails/stock/stock) 2019 Squier Affinity Telecaster HH (Esquire'd w/ JB) Applause/Ovation AE28 Acoustic/Electric. The Ibanez AZ is basically their take on a Suhr Modern, and isn't really their traditional RG style superstrat. A friend of mine has warned me it is C-type and very chunky -yada,yada- not for fast-playing (the myth again). Thanks for visiting. Its a serious caveat but not one I am overly worried about. [.] I think a big factor is simply whether you like the jack placement on the Fender. I also had my AZ when I bought a Suhr Modern Pro. Based on other sound demos on the internet, it sounds Strat-y with a lot of mojo. Kicsi s ers, sszecsukhat a knny . And, Ive moved on a bit since, but I was an Ibanez player almost exclusively for more than a decade. But Im not going to shit on somebody for choosing a guitar that makes them happy. In practice I like HSS or HH guitars, and based on what I like to play, the only pickup Ive ever felt the need to replace on any guitar is the bridge humbucker, and the usual suspects from Seymour Duncan and Dimarzio are about $100 each. If you've had your heart set on the Ibanez, then go for that. JavaScript is disabled. Final thought. What's your favorite 335 style guitar for under $1000 used? 19mm at 12F. I might buy one again if used prices go down again. 8 reviews Write your review Item ID: MM1TAB. d: Thickness of the neck at the twelfth fret. I had always steered clear of C-type necks and then the Strat won me over when I actually tried it (supposed to be a modern C, not a vintage C). It may not display this or other websites correctly. In Bangladesh, guitar players in smaller villages know about Suhr guitars. I have the Premium AZ242 and I'm still utterly shocked how well it stays in tune for a non-locking system. The noiseless pickups reduce a lot of the hum, which is fantastic and a great feature. I have a Prestige HSS AZ and a Fender Elite strat. You make a valid point. $ 2,599 .99. The bridge pickup screams - much more than I like as mainly a fusion player. Electric Guitar Body: Alder, Bolt-on neck: Maple, Fretboard: Maple, White pearloid dot fretboard inlays, Neck profile: Modern D, Compound Fretboard Radius: 254 - 355.6 mm (10"- 14"), Scale: 648 mm (25.51"), Nut width: 42,8 mm (1.69"), Bone nut, Electric Guitar Body: Alder, S-Tech Wood neck: Maple, Neck profile: Oval C, S-Tech Wood Fretboard: Maple, Nut width: 42 mm, Scale: 648 mm, Jumbo Stainless Steel frets with Prestige fret edge treatment, Pickups: 1 Seymour Duncan Hyperion humbucker Colours are irrelevant but I am looking for an HSS version and maple fretboard. Copyright 2023 Ibanez guitars. The humbucker is ok, but it seems a bit mushy for me with heavier distortion. 2.9 178. The AZs 305mm comes out to about 12", flatter than the standard modern Strat 10", but rounder than the Fenders multi-radius 10-14". So having both of these guitars to mess around with, I thought I'd A/B their sound/feel/quality. The heel joint on the Ibanez looks very nice. Fretwork isn't always great on a Prestige either but generally better than Premium, yes. But, how much of an upgrade does it feel from a Player HSS MIM? Most Successful Signature Guitar Of All Time. a: Width of the neck at the nut. Taking adaptability to new extremes, the AZ series has established itself and carved out a place that spans everything from the warmest blues licks, to the most intense, shred-heavy metal riffs. I have an AZ 2204f. It gets long. The bridge pickup is unbelievably hot. Play them both in a shop. Inspired. - Suhr - Chavel - Ibanez - IBANEZ AZ .. Japan (Prestige) 8X,XXX Indo (Premium) 4x,xxx Designed to Inspire, all Ibanez Premium series are manufactured with select tone woods, high-profile electronics, hardware and dedicated skills of craftsmanship and care in details for your musical journey. I tried to cover "Home" guitar rendition by Vinai T. Seriously GASsing for an AZ Prestige but can't decide between the HSS or HH model. I love when people come up to me and say Your guitar sound was better on Stoner Witch, when you used a Les Paul. JavaScript is disabled. JavaScript is disabled. There are quite a few differences between the two inc the scale length and fretboard radius which can change the way it feels to play as well. #37. And these are all compound-radius guitars meaning that the radius changes with higher frets. What's your favorite 335 style guitar for under $1000 used? Both play extremely well! Email me, address is on my channel's about page. But you're right that a Suhr would be a few hundred more. If you're using a bar lime Timmons would, then you'll find it will perform to that level well. I would swear they were at the same height. The two guitars are very different. I have a suhr 60s std in classic s. Thickness 0.81 0.93. That Fender, meanwhile, is just an upgraded, modified Strat. I really like the AZ2204 in Prussian Blue.
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