Absolutely there are a lot of folks out there who for some reason need to create something that raises a stir and gets the attention of the media etc.. Here she is talking about how to identify a mountain lion. The nonbelievers are going to say Show us your evidence and show us prove this to us. So that that's more or less I think why I'm here and why I got into this in nineteen ninety nine I found a what appeared to be a print of a mountain lion and that was in the Osprey mountains and I thought well OK that's that's a print. And the cougar embodies that. Deer Bear Moose Grey Wolf Coyote Foxes Fisher Mountain Lion NH Wildlife History. Over a period of a year and a half, this Mountain Lion left DNA evidence in at least four states. If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. And so I just wanted to share my share my experience with you guys and it was pretty awesome to see if you get to see one albeit it was in the brush. They sent he sent his scent those two samples with his to Wyoming an unfortunate Fish and Game Commission there did not get a positive read on it but send it back to Central Michigan University where they did a nuclear micro satellite DNA analysis and found no significant difference between that scat and other scats that were tested from the Rocky Mountain region. 1,470 likes. There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. Well let me ask maybe Pat and Rick about this. Peter Biello: Worth mentioning if we're scaring anybody question a mysterious mountain lions lurking perhaps in someone's backyard. Peter Biello: Yeah. Patrick Tate: Exactly I was gonna bring that up juvenile male of. Yes. Peter Biello: Nice to be here. And there are thousands of mountain lions killed every year legally through hunting, and there have been untold tens of thousands of mountain lions killed by hunters over the last hundred years, says Mark Elbroch, the Puma Program Director for Panthera, a global wild cat conservation organization, So even the folks who live with mountain lions still have a fancy and see something thats not there to me thats incredible.. The trouble with accepting every reported sighting as a confirmed mountain lion is that there are so many mistaken identifications. So you want identifiable backgrounds. So hey, just me shooting from the hip, maybe there are a couple mountain lions skulking about. Caller: And the more I thought about it the color of it it was definitely not a bobcat. Mountain lions live in the state. So Marty can you see what I'm getting at is the public sees different names and thinks that they're different animals but it's all the same animal. Somewhere the way they travel the things they do they're going to leave evidence. So when we talk about the threshold of evidence required to say for sure you have seen a mountain lion it is rather high. So one thing I'll add we're talking about natural dispensers but talking with the conservation officer in the 1980s they recall going to a residence telling a person you can live here but your mountain lion can't. In my New Hampshire career I have written several, and seen at least 20, stories along the lines of "local person thinks they saw a mountain lion but there's no actual evidence aside from. Are there other powers that be worried that scary mountain lions will scare off people from camping in New Hampshire. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. Numerous scat and fur specimens have been turned in as part of mountain lion report investigations; DNA identification has shown these submitted samples to be from domestic dog, coyote, bobcat andraccoon. Peter Biello: This is NHK PR Good morning and HP are summer car raffle is back and now's the time to get your early bird tickets. I can't tell you what you saw but it sounds like a mountain lion. But but I've also seen it cited the opposite way that look they're very secretive. It's good to talk to you. Is there a way we can learn more about these dispersing mountain lions that may travel through the Granite State and that I would ask you certainly part about whether or not a he's spending too much time chasing down these kind of false leads or B would rather be doing something else that is more informative to whether or not we actually have or can prove that we have dispersing mountain lions in the state. We we hear that there is allegedly a government conspiracy to deny the existence of mountain lions here in New Hampshire so I guess a local government conspiracy. One was in Shelton. I mean no doubt a seen Bobcat seen his stuff. Peter Biello: Well I want to ask Patrick about one of these stories a few years ago you had a story about someone who claimed to. Patrick Tate: Yes. Rick van de Poll: Well a report that you know as John Harrigan up north has in co-ops County for about 15 years I kept track of reports and people would call me and tell me where they saw the mountain lion they thought they saw it and it varied right from you know downtown villages all the way to remote highlands of the North Country and and everywhere in between. The supervisor that hired me in the game division in October of 1978 passed on to me this whole big folder of mountain lion information and sightings going back probably a couple decades. For all the men out there that don't realize it. It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before. So what those ranges. Peter Biello: From New Hampshire Public Radio I'm Peter Biello in for Lark Knoy and this is the exchange. They're just moving around freely. Peter Biello: Rick I believe you did mention that that they do leave carcasses up in the tree from time to time but are there any other species known in New Hampshire to do this on a regular basis. Like why would you want one wildlife. Peter Biello: Hmm. Its closest living relative is the cheetah. Peter Biello: Wow. She is renowned for tracking. That's the real story is they can't follow up on every one of these sightings. And really whenever you hear tiny code and long rope like tale it's kind of hard to pin this sighting on any other creature rather than an outline or just nothing else really matches that description. www.wildlife.state.nh.us, Buy or Renew Your Saltwater Fishing License, Great Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve. Patrick Tate: I've had hunters hang deer carcasses forbidding wildlife entries. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all. I was at the Sentinel as a reporter there for about four years and during that time I probably wrote close to a half dozen stories or so on this topic including a lengthy feature at one point that in which I spoke to several people from around the banana region claimed to have seen mountain lions that at one time or another. For starters, part of the confusion might come from the fact that the eastern cougar was taken off the endangered species list earlier this year. So. And so so with their limited staff and limited budget that is that is more and more limited every year because you know fewer people are buying hunting and fishing licenses. You saw what you saw. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. So before we get to the the the the stories of sightings we're getting a lot of calls. There are corollaries in other states. Do we have native species that could have exhibited this type of behavior leaving leaving a deer carcass up in a tree. A 140-pound male mountain lion was hit by a car and killed in 2011 in Milford, Connecticut. So I know it's another unconfirmed report but you string enough of these together. So I learned about what Rick just reported through a heart of heart of New Hampshire a letter and. Patrick Tate: So I just got to throw a little interesting side note in this. I had a resident in New Hampshire tell me a story of a mountain lion in the 1960s where a person who would come summer in New Hampshire and then live in a different part of the country in the winter had a trailer that was housing his mount line. Thanks also to Rick van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England and Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in about the natural world and how we use it. I believe I saw one that's fine and I'm not looking for an immediate story. So I hate the idea that there's some sort of upward you know downward pressure from the bosses saying Don't you know don't tell about the mountain lions because it'll scare away the tourists. Patrick Tate: So Cougar Mountain Lion katama. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. John thanks. A lot of times. Less than a year later I found a scat on the swamp range and I was working at the time with a fellow at the Michigan wildlife habitat Federation. And to anyone listening I would just say you know fishing game who wants proof right. Mountain Lions in NH. No doubt in my mind it was. People have asked me about the genetics of eastern mountain lion. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org. The states never denied mountain lions are here, and theyve never admitted mountain lions are here. 1957. There'd be there'd be all sorts of you know basically a lot of hassle required if that were to happen. Post your sightings and NH photos here! No I saw a camel. Right. From involving members in projects as local as cleaning up an area park or as far-reaching as bringing sight to the world's blind, Lions clubs have always . And just one more note about this danger question when even when you look at the states that have extended populations stable populations of mountain lions attacks are relatively rare. And as the biologist who's gonna stand on this and if I'm going to say this is a proven picture I need to be able to stand on it so soundly and have the evidence so I going to go through it with a fine tooth comb kept picking pieces apart trying to answer these pieces. SUE Morse naturalist and science director for the organization keeping track. Thank you. So and so the idea that they can follow up on every individual sighting is just crazy right. People were calling the New Hampshire Fish and Game director's office saying why are you dragging your feet on this. And because you know things flow downhill and I was pushed to go investigate it more and met with the individual two or three times and there was a bunch of inconsistencies about the photograph. However the scarring on the trees did not and the angles were off. The panther, Fells concolor, is a beast of many names, most frequently referred to in New Hampshire history as catamount, but sometimes known locally as "Indian Devil" or "Carcajou", under which . They create these big latrines that are very obvious. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. List of Mountains in New Hampshire is a general list of mountains in New Hampshire, with elevation.This list includes many mountains in the White Mountains range that covers about a quarter of the state, as well as mountains outside of that range.. If youve got photo trap evidence of a Mountain Lion, send it in, and we'll send it along to the appropriate state or federal agency! Sam. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. And in fact in 2011 when it was announced that the eastern cougar was officially extinct the reason that announcement was made is because they said really that it never existed. From came from out west they tracked it all the way back to the Black Hills in the Dakotas. The great thing about pictures isn't the animal itself it's the background. Reviewing the evidence, the U.S. And today we're talking about the mysterious elusive mountain line with folks who know something about it. Patrick Tate: Yeah yeah. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. Were there any differences between these two that we could have noticed right off. The term is because mascots notwithstanding right that they're referred to with a lot of different terms and sometimes they can be confused with a lot of different terms. Every other Friday on Morning Edition NHPRs Sam Evans-Brown tracks down answers to questions about the environment and outdoors for our listeners in a segment we call Ask Sam.. By Eric Orff. Sam Evans-Brown: What he would have stopped as well I think is way way that the reason that mountain lion kept moving is because he wasn't finding anybody. The report came in from a conservation officer. On a dirt road. They used to roam the entire continent, but have become extinct in most US states. nh.gov | privacy policy | accessibility policy New Hampshire Public Radio | I've collected scat samples I've got several in my collection. 44-N Links. And it came out we could see it had and we could see its long swooping tail. For me as a person who's handled many bobcats and looked at many pictures Bobcat the White chin Bobcat right off is what comes out to me and then the black the the roughs on our Bobcats we'll have sometimes have black fringes on them. What kind of animal is that. Thank you very much for listening. County road and all of a sudden a big cat jumps out of the woods over a stone wall stood in the middle of the dirt road as I rode towards it. I actually been interviewed a couple of times by reporters and with all due respect for the media you know facts aren't always communicated correctly. GAP MOUNTAIN LIONS CLUB Fitzwilliam, New Hampshire (USA) District 44-N . Peter Biello: But clearly you know you're saying like hoaxes people who claim to have seen a mountain lion but knowingly have not or are appropriating photos taken elsewhere of legit mountain lion say out West where they people acknowledge that they exist certainly knowingly or unknowingly in this case the person who sent it to me said hey a friend of mine sent me this photo and said he took it on his back porch also. There were several sightings in CT over the last few months. WMUR NH Chronicle Mountain Lions in NH Part I and Part II. Patrick Tate: Nice talk to you too. Your support makes this news available to everyone. Well let's hear from from Sue Morse again science director for the organization keeping track. Patrick Tate: And there's one other way to model that is the same animal. So one thing that I find fascinating about this Connecticut cat was six months between the New York situation where they found evidence of it too when it was hit by a motor vehicle. We're gonna talk about sightings in this part of the program as well we'd love to hear your story. Let's look for other evidence. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof mountain lions live in the state, yet residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. As far as I could tell there was a positive DNA sequence coming from the scat sample Patrick. But the state always denies it, and none of us know why they deny it. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. We're gonna cue you up and bring into the program listeners in just a moment but I want to ask about the role that Mountain Lions play in the ecosystem we've been talking a lot about mountain lions traveling and being sort of hard to track as they move. Copyright New Hampshire Fish and Game Department.An official New Hampshire government website. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. And here we're talking about in this situation we're talking about it migrated from the West. We want answers. Peter Biello: There have been several alleged sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. Patrick Tate: So I'm not sure what subspecies of cat they're using to differentiate by those markings but once she was describing the White other face in the black. Part II. What gets confusing is when you have a large adult animal and a smaller juvenile animal of a different species you can now step start beginning talking about overlapping body weights and sizes. So I want to start the program with a comment from someone who is not in the studio with us today. So here in New Hampshire when a person turns in something that the Department believes is possible mountain lion and believes it should be investigated further. Maps of Trapping Take by Town 1994 to 2004. Your support makes this news available to everyone. Updated: 9:53 AM EST Dec 6, 2016. Sunny today high temperatures low to mid 80s it'll be clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s for tomorrow sunshine with high temperatures mid to upper 80s. There's a lot of photographs that you can see that it's very clearly a tabby cat that someone has thought was a mountain lion. There's these animals aren't coming with a map saying oh I want to go here. No evidence and other states where Mountain lights have turned up. Id like to hazard the explanation that we really, really want to see a mountain lion. Contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. Peter Biello: Oh okay. WMUR uLocal: On this trail cam video, an unidentified feline is spotted. 1957. That's what we're seeing is dispersing mountain lions from the West who are just making their way through. I can't. Really appreciate it. That's pretty elaborate. Which brings us to the next question, what are the odds that some of these reported sightings (which, when I posted about this on twitter, I immediately started to get as well) are actually people seeing a mountain lion? So I just brought up the bobcat thing because the location is fascinating to me that that that location we have Bobcats existing but that location we have a mountain lion report because it's a developed area and which brings me back to earlier what I had said it's a bouncing ball. I've actually had to walk in on one or two now and look at what was going on and figured out what was going on. Thanks for your call. And now that everyone and their mother has a remote camera in their back yard its just so, so unlikely that there are resident, breeding mountain lions in New England that are living invisibly among us, he says, Its become Big Foot.. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. Caller: Oh yeah. So Michael follows with the question. It's bigger but bigger and better world. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction 3,207 views Jul 31, 2019 78 Dislike Share Save New Hampshire Fish and Wildlife 634 subscribers During my thirty-one career at the New. They're the generalists that made it through both the arrival of the Clovis people with their with their spears and then the Europeans with their guns. Today, their range stretches from the Yukon Territory in Canada along the western coast of the United States, all the way to the Southern Andes in Chile.
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