The swaged bullets are soft enough that they expand even at mild velocities where a JHP or hard cast cant. Ive been shooting them for 50 years. I have loaded wadcutters for plinking , Double end 148 grain,, mixed brass over 2.7 gn WST or Bullseye. Accurate's No. Very forgiving with a straight wall case, and tons of bullet variety. JHP, 125 gr. You gotta try the S&W M342 Airlight TI. This would be for plinking for my wife's ~3" Rossi, so something light and fun to shoot would be great. And, oh yeah. Nice thing about reloading is that loads can be tailored for the gun that you are shooting. 38 spl.s. Minnesota. Very versatile cartridge. Ask your Dealer, or call Hodgdon), has a Cowboy Load section, (near the center fold), that lists data for about all SASS calibers. Just dont shoot a rabbit with this load if you want to be able to eat any of it. But, with jacketed bullets that doesn't seen to be working. The load you use will be up to your gun. It has been many years since I used a Lee Loader and a wooden mallet to reload 8mm Mauser. Their biggest use is in making screws and small bolts. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. hard cast LSWC's as a target load. Interesting. This wire is then fed into a machine called a cold header. The plated bullets feed nicely through my bullet feeder. I found some data for 148 and 158 gr bullets but no published data on the 125s. You will find plenty of Red Dot loads there. I simply took mixed brass and ran em through the Hornady Lock-N-Load AP press with the bare minimum preparation. Thank you. Seems like everyone is all orgasmic about bigger, faster, more of, etc. For those folks shooting a lot of lead bullets, invest in a Lewis lead remover. Im not a hoarder and I dont keep them, but I am detailed in my process. Now theres an old memory. I've been reading about this. CorBon Self Defense, 38 Special, 125 Grain, Jacketed Hollow Point, +P, 20 Round Box 38125 Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. Only need cast when driving up to 1200 fps or so. Hornady also has load data for the 110-grain .357 XTP for the lower-pressure .38 Automatic. I get 1000 fps with this load. SWC+GC, Here is the dillema: The Lyman manual says starting load is 3.2 grains and MAX. Any discussion of Bullseye is incomplete without mentioning a few of the downsides. Depends on what kind of load you're after. Modern .38 spl std HP load is more than enough, dont over think it. Good thing I didn't go with the original powder charge I intended to use. 110gr JHP! A longer case, with have a tighter crimp them a shorter one, what will lead to variations in pressure, and accuracy. While I wish I could carry a 5 .45 WITNESS with several 10 round mags, as a senior citizen, the S&W J frame is my user friendly alternate. 3.7gr WST with Zero 158 SWC did the job for me. I have the shrouded hammer version, the 638, and have been wary of training much with it because of its aluminum frame. Disclaimer, I own or owned all the super calibers out there except the casull, theyre all fun and quite useful in some scenarios, but dont discount the old timer. You may find it will need to be faster for good 50 yd. At 25 you can get away with a lighter load. That one Ill keep. DISTINGUISHED LOADS SUCK - Distinguished Revolver loads that don't suck? Wadcutters are tailor made for lightweight snubbie practice, allowing shooters to enjoy shooting the pocket guns. If you have the means, I highly recommend you trying one out. When you could leave city limits and just about every dirt mound in sight, was a plinking range. Therefore, .38 Special +P ammo can be as much as 17.5 percent hotter than standard .38 Special. WST is a good powder for a very specialized load. Everyone here who has tried plated bullets including myself, have had disappointing results in accuracy. Dennis, I dont reload and Im only 72, but shooting the .38Spl in my 6 S&W 586 is a sublime experience. I dont bother polishing my .38 brass because I just dont let it fall in the mud or dirt. Stylish But Serious: Kimber Super Carry Pro, Survival Savvy: Gearing Up for the Next Level, Force Multiplier: Knife and Gun Integration. I use 3 gr. I went to the grocery store to buy a loath of bread.. I used to reload .38s and .357s with 158 grain LSWC bullets over 4.3 and 6.5 grains of Unique. If you're looking for a real light load that's easy to shoot, I'd just use WW's data for the W231 with a 125 gr. The Charter Arms .44 models are potential CCWs, but are too light to properly handle the .44 spl. Im also impressed by the apparent durability of your Airweight J-frame. Read my very long thread about "DR loads that don't suck". The Lyman is handy for sizing or priming while youre watching a movie. Using bullets from Hornady HP-XTP, Hornady HP-XTP or FP-XTP, Hornady FP-Cowboy, Hornady HBWC, Hornady SWC-HP, SWC or LRN. Any pistol competitions yet? head I use 3.2gr. Plated bullets are to be loaded as lead bullets. I routinely use only two powders: Trail Boss and Titegroup. It is easy to load in progressive presses and has commercially available options from virtually all modern manufacturers. I have 100% confidence in my ability to shoot quickly, accurately, and comfortably with the 32, and I also have confidence that, if needed, my 32 H&R loads from Buffalo Bore and DoubleTap are quite capable of doing the job they are asked to do. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. But you guys need to practice more. Below, are three loaded rounds. IT'S A COMBINATION TAPER AND ROLL CRIMP. Which left me with the last two. I went from 2.7to 4.0 gr and nothing to speak of. Too early Are you sure? 110gr JHP! 10 for a full cylinder. (Cowboy Action) 38 Special (Cowboy Action) 38-40 Win. Hodgdons Clays, International, Universal and HP38 are good choices. I dunno. Unique was a sooty powder so Ive switched to W231. I load my own, 130 gr RNFP using Win 231 powder a little over the mid point in the published load data. I load rounds for my wife to shoot @ Win 231 4.0 to 4.3 gr. 32 H&R Mag 21,000 Regulator, SBSS #2255, Pawnee Station, Ro I & II. I never enjoyed touching off a 357 Mag in a K frame, and I cannot imagine the discomfort of firing it in anything smaller or lighter. Powered by Invision Community, 125 grain plated flat point in 38 Special. I keep it under my seat in case I get an unwanted intruder and I cant get to my IWB semi auto. This too is useful information. Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue. swatmag.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. For those who have issues using auto pistils, due ti arthritis or other medical issues with the hands an LCR or 642 is a great choice. Jacketed bullets are not legal for Distinguished Revolver. The stuff you learn shooting 20,000 reloads (on top of thousands of rounds of factory ammo) can be pretty interesting and I feel that Ive got a very good picture of what the .38 Special. I once had to quote the South Carolina Supreme Court when they had spelled it loathe., Regards, defensive ammo. Notes: primer: CCI 500; case: Speer; NOTE: All loads are maximum. Since it hit the market 103 years ago, it has been a staple for most handloaders and the backbone of most accuracy loads in the popular calibers. The 125 Hornady XTP, a jacketed hollow point bullet that can easily handle 1500 fps velocities. Hmm. The majority of my shooting with .38 has taken place with soft lead bullets. Just look for a lead remover tool with bronze screens. I agree, an airweight has snappy recoil. Like almost all pistol cartridges called ".38" the .38 Special actually takes .357" diameter bullets. Shoot cast and coated bullets and you can go much higher in load and velocity. Winchesters 231 or WSL are also good powders for the .38 special. As example, 5.8 6.0 grains UNIQUE with a 125 grain HP in a snub nose .357 revolver. (Same issue found with a 12 oz. less to start.) 7, No. There is a difference in the manufacturing process of swaged bullets. It seems to burn completely in the .38 and is not as critical as the faster powders like Bullseye. Great Cast Lead Bullet for IDPA. My Hornady 11th edition shows this for 38 Special 158 gr lead RN, LSWCHP and LSWC. 4.2 gr. Normal, mild .38 loads work fine with lead bullets. It is always higher when powder is next to primer. A GI surplus 1911 that puts most loads into dinner-plate sized groups cut 3.8 inches with the classic recipewhich is probably the only time Ive gotten excited about an almost four-inch group! I would say I completely disagree with you on ever even contemplating using a revolver for self defense unless you are a person that has never owned a gun and not likely ever to practice with it. They have a large selection about the hard cast loads from 90 to 170 gains. Its like a pellet gun with a little noise and smoke if using black powder. I still think highly of the LCR but would shoot only 148 grain wadcutters in .38 Special or .32 H&R Magnums in the .327 Magnum model. Rated 5.00 out of 5 based on 9 customer ratings. The Speers do occasionally and the Magnus a little more. Dont take this the wrong way; Im guessing the average age of .38 spl fans is about my age (70). The cowboy loads would be good choices as listed, since these ARE reduced loads for that sport, where usually just hitting a metal plate to make a sound is all that is required of the round. Different colors can be used to identify different loads and since bottom of each bullet is also powder coated, there is less lead dispersed in the air at the shooting range. All the data says this should be an OK load , even "mid-range" for non +p. How does WST compare to Bullseye powder? Thanks for the start load Power Pistol will run lower pressures for the same velocity than W-W 231. (This is prevalent among most aftermarket designs- they are smallest in the longest, strongest finger area, and largest at the bottom pinkie area.). [.38 Special] is a very versatile and useful round. Great article & thread!!! Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. Load manuals often advise against downloading .38 Special jacketed loads to prevent squibs, especially the 110 and 125 grain bullets. Speer .38 shot cup, 5 grains of UNIQUE, and (3) #1 Buckshot pellets dates back to the 70s as a Junk Yard Dog load. There are many fun uses for buckshot. Bullseye, Unique and 2400 are products of Alliant (formerly Hercules) Powders. Ive played with several that I like, but the classic in 9mm is 4.4 grains driving a 115-grain jacketed bullet. I havent shot too many full house Casull loads, but I get a huge grin when shooting my reduced loads of 7.5grs of Trail Boss under a Cast Performance 360gr WLFN. Its the kind of load that will make you fall in love with the 1911 all over again! A light target load, which tends to be very accurate, is about 3.1 grains, with a 158 grain bullet. revolver, with a 3 barrel, and 4 6 oz. 357 Magnum 35,000 THAT TIME IS BETTER SPENT LEARNING HOW TO SHOOT THE REVOLVER IN THE RAPID FIRE PORTION. Bullseye or Titegroup cover 90% or more of my .38 Special loadings. WAP, WMR, WSF, WSL, 760, 748, 231 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div. Would you like to react to this message? I guess its out of production now- I havent seen it (or heard of it) in years. The 158 gr cast plain base accuracy load was 4.0 gr 231 which gave 837 Fps and 15,900 psi. No. Thanks very much to LarryinTX for that! It also shows that the loads were established using a 6" barrel, so regardless of what any published data shows, the chances of ever finding published data for the exact projectile and barrel length you are using, as well as the exact conditions you will be shooting in, would be nearly impossible. My brother put CT laser grips on his wifes M36. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. How Do I Choose Good Self-Defense Ammo For My Handgun? I have 125 grain jacketed bullets, Bullseye powder and CCI 500 primers. Despite being well over one hundred years old, it still has perfect relevance for todays shooters, both novice and advanced. When I finally got my hands on a pound of Bullseye, I naturally started with some of these loads. We've got some great loads for 158 coated and plated semi wadcutters, and we're trying something new. Based on this Id load some at 3.3 and 3.5 and see what you get, but Id never exceed 3.8 ever. Recoil is subjective and I feel no difference between that and an 750-775 fps load. Canister Sizes: View All Bullseye Recipes Me too! Enter to win an FN FAL Rifle. Allgoodhits Posts : 726 Join date : 2017-09-17 Location : Northern Virginia Like I've tried Berry's plated as well as Remington. On 7/4/2018 at 11:57 AM, Bill Sahlberg said: There is nothing more accurate at PPC than 148 gr8 HBWC (lead) using 2.8 gr of 231 and a tight crimp with Starline 38 Special brass & a Federal Small pistol primer. Javascript is required. Here's what the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook says for cast 125g flatpoint for 38 in the powders you mentioned. This gun now wears factory synthetic grips which are decent but could use more girth behind the trigger guard. I miss those days. You will be, essentially, making 38 Short Colt. The floor does not apply for PPC, or the equivalent match for Action Pistol. Word to the wise: all handgun cartridges (with the likely exception of .44 Magnum and maybe even .357 Magnum) are underpowered for self-defense. Magnum 44 S&W Special 45 Colt 45 Auto 45 G.A.P 9mm Luger 9x18mm Makarov 32 S&W Long (Cowboy Action) 32-20 Win. You trade a little less speed for a little more mass but at snubnose velocities I really think the standard 158 grain slug gives the best penetration. For me, the 32 H&R Mag is my 357 Mag, and the 32 S&W Long is my 38 SPL. . Great to get the Mrs out there! +P? (Or so I have heard.). My hand ached for a week. I don't have a chronograph, but have considered picking one up. (Inceptor) Diameter: 0.357" Powder: CFE Pistol (Hodgdon) Primer: WIN WSP Case: WIN Trim Length: 1.145" C.O.L. My other son fired one shot and handed it back. Ethan Johns is a military professional with worldwide experience in specialized units. These are light and easy to shoot. Super cheap and easy to make and would likely be a very effective defense ammo against wildlife that might be a threat to me as the two balls will spread an inch or two from each other at close range. I find the Pachmayr Compac grips on my 640 reduce the slap of full-boat .357 to less than that on my 3 M65 (w/ wood Altamont grips) or my 4 686 (Pachmayr Gripper Professional grips.) They are low because of swaged bullets. I load a hard cast 125gn for my 38 special all the time. He has taught and been responsible for numerous advanced skills and weapons courses within multiple organizations. I just dont like practicing with it. Boolit Grand Master. May 15, 2012. kc2za said: Hi All, I have been loading .38 spl with 2.7 gr. I use 3.2 gr Bullseye to push a 125 gr cast along at 750 - 775 fps in the 38 SPL from 5 and 6" barreled revolvers. I SEE THAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT USE THE AMMO FOR D/R. 7.8 gr Blue Dot 1,170 fps 1.43" Fed 100 Alliant Suggested starting load: 7.0 gr Pressure: 15,700 4.5 gr Bullseye 1,085 fps 1.43" Fed 100 Alliant Suggested starting load: 4.1 gr Pressure: 14,900 for 38 special Notes: Bbl Length: 5.6; primer: Fed. I am using this load in some .38 specials. YOU WOULD BE WASTING YOUR TIME TRIMMING THE BRASS. Be careful !!!! You need a .357 Magnum revolver if you want to try a 9MM cylinder. I've been using the same powders forever. Others Have reported some success but few have more than one or two loads. 2 and No. Good job on you! Loath and Loathe are different words that mean different things. Ive done the majority of shooting in .38 Special in my Smith & Wesson 642. Does anyone have experience with loading WST for 125 gr plates bullets or a place to start the research/testing? I like Bullseye in the 38 Special, and it was a consistent performer with the 125 grain bullets. My use of the term adequate means that Hodgdon has produced a workable result for the .38 Special, .38 Special +P, and .357 Magnum that may be used for 125 grain weight bullets having velocity limitations. I can not be held responsible for. Installed some wood boot grips, modified them with grooves at the bottom of each side panel, similar to those on Pach. Don't know of any bullets like that. Starting being near 3gr - ish. Use data for weight. Testing out some bullseye with 125 berry's bullets.. These types of guns are not as strong as more modern solid frame revolvers. The 38 Special, practically snubnose 38 Specials, seem to do their best work with bullets right around the 155-160 grain range. It was introduced in 1902 by Smith & Wesson, and has since become a worldwide cartridge. Winchester's 231 or WSL are also good powders for the .38 special. it seems awful confusing, but with time you will be able to interpolate the published data into something that will give you good starting points to work up your loads. 148-grain wadcutter brings accuracy that begs the shooter to test their limits. S&W M637-2 2" barrel 38 Special, all bullet weights Bullet Powder Weight Powder Velocity OAL Primer Source 110gr JHP! Classic loads are economical. Most modern revolvers chambered for .38 SPL are rated to +P, so there is room for error, but care must still be taken. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Hodgdon - 700-X: 125 gr. Eventually somebody introduced me to tungsten carbide resizing dies, after which case life became near indefinite. There seems to be a dearth of information using WST powder for the 38 Spl cartridge. The Model 19 is fine with .38s but mildly uncomfortable with .357s. Ive been looking for a reason to get into reloading, and am particularly intrigued by the extremely long case life of .38 Special. *WAP is not best choice for .38 special, too slow and inconsistent. IIRC, I used 4.5 gr of Bullseye under a 125 gr lead bullet for a light plinker, and 5.6 gr of Bullseye under a 148 gr wadcutter (~815 fps, 4" bbl, probably around 750 fps out of a snub). The .38 Special remains very popular for personal protection and Michelle Hamilton shares her thoughts on the top loads for concealed carry, like this 158-grain SWCHP FBI Load, based on her testing. These grips seem quite comfortable and afford a pinkie finger rest for improved control albeit with a certain loss of concealability. .38 Special (Using Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 353 loads. * And.those Hornady 158 HPs are easy to reload but I have never had one open up in a varmint of any sort. Your link has been automatically embedded. have been factored in, but Looks like starting with roughly 4.2 of W231. Rookie, back in the day when I was reloading I went through a 3 round butt L. Horton special model 24, a 4 24 and a 4 624. Most notably the lighter weight bullets. I was looking through the Lyman 49th edition reloading manual and see the bullets you are talking about. It doesnt appear like there is much of an advantage in using WST with lighter weight bullets. The 38 Special Ball round was designed a long time ago to comply with specifications laid down for ammo that was : 1) Compliant with the Hague Accords of 1907 in regard to "unnecessarily" injurious ammunition. Winchester's website has data for W231 and a 125 gr LRNFP, but not plated. Bullet seating depth is very forgiving. The cartridge offers a great deal of zest and has thousands of possible load combinations. Click there and go to the load data lookup section . All right are Reserved Reload Ammo, Reloading The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), hi=849 lo=728 ES=122 (powder up and down), hi=821 lo=684 ES=137 (powder up and down), hi=815 lo=637 ES=178 (powder in normal positions), hi=714 lo=549 ES=165 (powder up and down), hi=758 lo=693 ES=65 (powder up and down)(DO NOT USE LESS), Hi=886, Lo=861, ES=25 (This is a Carolina Cast bullet SWC-great cowboy load), hi=859 lo=743 ES=116 *(my personal medium load), hi=875 lo=685 ES=190.2(powder up and down), hi=710 lo=497 ES=213 (powder up and down), hi=791 lo=625 ES=166 (Powder up and down), hi=785 lo=670 ES=115 (powder up and down), hi=801, low=766 ES=35.32 in Contender 14 bbl. 1.) Reloading supplies and load recipes are available everywhere. Really important to have a chrono if you're going to work up loads When I first bought my chrono, I was amazed at how HOT my loads were - unnecessarily. Were all familiar with the old adage, Never bring a knife to a gunfight. And while we should, The active shooter is a relatively new phenomenon in the grand scheme of things. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. Most starting .357 reloading powder levels will fall in this .38 +P+ type reload, and the powder being used can be selected (faster or slower) based on barrel length. Have not confirmed the difference with a chronograph. Anyone that uses a J frame S&W should seriously think about swapping grips, and finding which set works for them. Paste as plain text instead, It'll look funky, but it will shoot. For best accuracy in slow fire shooting, you may want to raise gun before every shot. I dont miss lubing casescarbide is king! I first started reloading 40+ years ago at a Lee Loader in .38 Special for a brand new Smith & Wesson Model 66 I had just purchased. With a charge of only 3.1 grains of Winchester 231 powder, velocities run around 750 to 800 fps with good accuracy and mild recoil. I make a habit of counting the number of reloads I make by keeping a tally of primer and bullet boxes. is so simple. No matter where you look, the first mention in classic loads for the .38 Special is a 148-grain wadcutter over 2.7 grains of Bullseye. If you, I took the vow not to buy any more AR-15s a couple of years ago. Im new to loading the 38 for accuracy, but the biggest issue I found with case length is your crimp. As for the load ya the 158gr will probably take a little more, but your gun will tell you how much more.. The 357 magnum about 45,000 psi and the std 38 special about 17,000 psi. For 3 that actually doesnt kick too badly. The quality of the loads equals a bargain. This. Current J frame factory grips have similar features and are made of a stiffer compound. You can post now and register later. Instead, Ive favored things like the K and L frame Smiths (5 screw pre-model 10 and 686 in my case) and Ruger revolvers for higher round count activities. I'm still hunting for a DR load for my S&W M19-5. Cartridge : .38 Special (SAAMI)Bullet : .357, 125, FP Rainier Useable Case Capaci: 20.320 grain H2O = 1.319 cm Cartridge O.A.L. I don't completely understand the physics behind it. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. is limited to either the various Charter Arms models, or as a training/target load in a .44 magnum size handguns. And if youre doing that [shooting 158 grain bullets at 1200 fps muzzle velocity] with a snub.let me know I wanna watch you shoot em. Ideal load in a 2 J Frame .38. Thank you for the article. I carry 38 /357 every day have used them in real world shootings. I meant to say NRA. Agree 100% since I reload and shoot it since years, lost count. Load it like Trail Boss. It seems to burn completely in the .38 and is not as critical as the faster powders like Bullseye. If you havent taken a look at what the .38 Special offers, youre selling yourself short. The .327 Fed Mag is IT! I found it to be a nice blend of accuracy, soft recoil, and sure functioning, with enough spice behind it to reliably topple steel targets. Fifty yards of course is the preferred distance. 7.) Each of the classic loads is also economical. I have 4 handguns that will shoot .38. Start conservative if you wish. Main issue is that the .44 spl. Most of these are at the upper end. Unlike many other guns Ive owned and carried, this little snubby really cant be modified much beyond factory configuration. A Forum dedicated to the sport of Bullseye shooting, Bullseye-L Forum::Ammunition Discussion. (Patrick Sweeney photo) September 15, 2021 By Michelle Hamilton, Field Editor. would also bridge the gap that the .38 versus .357 have in defensive loads. .38 Special +P (Alliant Reloaders Guide) Warning! butt 686 shipped w/ Hogue monogrips, discarded immediately due to pronounced finger grooves. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I thought the DR program was NRA, not CMP. 4.2 gr. Main fame for the .38 is now the J frame size revolvers, as a CCW gun. Similarly on drills with set times such as firing five shots in five seconds onto a bull at ten yards, the Bullseye load allows a little more time per shot to take advantage of a great 1911 trigger and lets the shooter nearly push shots into the same hole. Going up to 3.9 Gr for +P. load is 4.4 grains for 38 special and 5.0 grains is a +P load. I may have to rethink my plan. Think that if a .44 spl. I started reloading 38 special as my first cartridge 8 years ago when I was 22, soooo.I have an old mans soul? Thanks for the guidance and suggestions. If you can follow simple instructions, you can safely load this cartridge. Your previous content has been restored. Two years into my second century a Colt MK IV Series 80 LTWT Commander 45 ACP still delivers the big medicine, but I have become enthralled with a new wheel gun- a Charter Arms Professional 32 H&R Magnum. @ Grumpy- I tried LOTS of grips on S&W revolvers. Reading the "WARNING" on the site, it states to not exceed the loads published and to start 10% below the loads shown and work up from there. I think the 158 lrn is more accurate then the swc but that's just me. This post was originally published in 2018. Yes, I had no issues with the 38 SPL, but the 32 is just more FUN- especially when I get seven shots of it in a revolver the size of J frame! Ive not had a handgun entirely reject either load, so the recipe seems to be a worthy third alongside the previous .38 and .45. There have been guns Ive bought for the caliber, but the .38 wasnt one of those. Hornady Discussion: Bullseye is a faster burning powder and some people feel better suited for the .38 special. .38 Special: What Ive Learned After 20,000 Rounds, Stacey Abrams Whopper: No one believes in eroding the Second Amendment, Scottsdale Home Owner Uses Shotgun to Stop Naked Home Invader Caught in His Childs Room [VIDEO], Liberty Ammunitions Innovative Personal Defense Rounds are Lighter, Go Faster, and Hit Harder. I was hoping I could use this combo to make use of available components. I once rented a Ruger LCR in .38 Special. That for just a nice shooting load one cant beat 148gr wad-cutter for pure fun. I like the smell of Bullseye, dont mind wiping the handguns down after a range day, and the dark soot that accumulates on my support hand when shooting wheelguns in particular just reminds me to wash up. You are spot on about Trail Boss, that stuff is magical with cast reloads. The jump straight to relatively hot GI hardball challenged many students, and failure to meet standards meant being dropped from the course. I, like Spartacus, find the SAAMI recommendations an interesting spec for comparative purposes. When I say that theres rarely a wrong way to do it, I really mean it. When using a 158 gr. https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t2221-distinguished-revolver-loads-that-don-t-suck. Dont get me wrong: I think the Smith and Wesson Model 642 Airweight revolver is an outstanding self-defense (concealed carry) revolver and you wont feel/care about how snappy/unpleasant the recoil may be in a real self-defense event. The .44 spl. Since we are working with a gun that doesnt have a magazine, we can afford to mess with this dimension at will. Bullseye Handgun Powders Smokeless pistol powder Billions of rounds have been loaded with Bullseye since it was introduced in 1913. This 1911 halved its normal so-so accuracy with 200-grain Hornady C/T SWC, shooting this nice two-inch group. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. So you only hang onto the primer boxes loosely? 9 mm, .40 sw, 45 acp, .44 mag. The mention of a Lee Loader somewhere above took me back to the good-old days. WITH THE SWAGED BULLETS REDDING SELLS A PROFILE CRIMP DIE. So it is my gut feeling that Winchester found it to be touchy in smaller calibers like 38 special and 9mm Luger. The manufacturing process of swaged bullets requires relatively soft lead for two reasons. 8.) I here from quite a few that 3.5 gr of bullseye is a good load for 158 gr lead Bullets for bullseye shooting.
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